The recent establishment and expansion of a
Charlotte-based megachurch in Winston-Salem has former LGBTQ members of the
A Charlotte area-based megachurch has established a
permanent residence in Winston-Salem and is expanding, raising concerns by some
former LGBTQ members of the church who say they were discriminated against, and
that the church’s policies on LGBTQ rights are too vague.
Charlotte area-based megachurch Elevation Church purchased
the building that houses the Gateway YWCA on South Main Street in Winston-Salem
about a month ago. The church has been a tenant in the building for the last
two years, holding two Sunday services there weekly. A Forsyth County Register
of Deeds filing shows that the building, which was previously owned and
operated by the YWCA of Winston-Salem and Forsyth County, was bought by EC
Winston LLC on July 12. Business records show that EC Winston LLC is registered
to James Brett Corbett, otherwise known as Chunks Corbett, Elevation’s chief
financial officer, and the address on file matches the address for Elevation’s
Elevation Church was founded by Pastor Steven Furtick in
Matthews in 2006 and has grown to 18 locations across the southeastern United
States and one campus in Toronto. Most of its locations are in North Carolina,
including one in Greensboro where the church meets at Western Guilford High
School. Based on an annual report posted on its website, in 2018, the church
boasted $77.1 million in revenue and close to 26,000 attendees at its physical
locations. The church also live-streams its sermons online, where viewers from
all over the world tune in.
The sale comes just months after the YWCA announced that it
would not be re-opening its pool, a large draw for many of its members, after damage
from flooding in August 2018 forced it to close.
Christy Respess, the president and CEO of the YWCA of
Winston-Salem and Forsyth County, said that the sale of the building to
Elevation Church is a relief because of the amount of debt that the YWCA had
accumulated during the recession.
“We had a strategic plan to partner with someone on the
building that would allow us to stay here,” she said. “It’s a beautiful
building but the recession hit, and we had $12 million in debt but we’re only a
$3 million organization.”
The church paid $3.16 million for the property, according to
“This is just a business transaction, but we’re a
complementary partnership,” Respess said. “We’ve coexisted nicely and to go
from owner to tenant just made sense for us. We are not merging boards; we are
separate organizations. Now that we are debt free, all of our revenue goes to
our programs and the facility. It is a much better financial decision for the
YWCA to be a tenant rather than cover the overhead for a building that large
and to cover debt services.”
In a press release, Greg Basch, the campus pastor at Winston-Salem
Elevation Church, said he’s excited about the partnership with YWCA. Basch did
not respond to multiple emails and phone calls for comment.
“We have enjoyed an incredible relationship with the YWCA since we launched our Winston-Salem church here in 2017,” Basch said.
“We’re looking forward to establishing a permanent presence from which we can continue to reach and serve more people in Winston.”
During last Sunday’s 11 a.m. service, Parker Richardson, an
employee at Elevation’s new Winston-Salem location, announced that the church will
be expanding its presence in the city to include Sunday evening services at Goler
Memorial AME Zion Church at the corner of Patterson Avenue and Seventh Street
starting Aug. 18.
“We’re not gonna wait on a construction project to keep
developing and expanding,” Richardson said from the stage.
The church is a predominantly African-American one, and was
listed for sale at $3.5 million in April.
A spokesperson for Goler Memorial, who did not want to be
named, confirmed the agreement to rent space to Elevation Church on Wednesday and
said that they would continue to have their own services at the church. They
also said that there no plans for Elevation to buy the church.
“They’ve never even approached us about that,” said the
When asked about the YWCA’s stance on the LGBTQ community,
Respess said, “We are all-inclusive no matter what anyone’s background. We
serve everybody. We never turn anyone away. They are welcomed and loved by us.”
Past members of Elevation say they were barred from taking
on leadership positions within the church and were treated differently once
they came out as LGBTQ to staff and volunteers.
One former member of the YWCA, who is heterosexual, said she
wouldn’t be returning after learning that Elevation bought the building.
Nathanial Totten Green, a former Elevation Church member and a gay man, said he was discriminated against for being gay when he came out to his campus worship leader in Roanoke, Va. He joined Elevation in 2015 and became a part of the worship team, which performs on stage at the church. He was also the musical director and had an unpaid internship lined up when he told his campus worship leader that he was gay. Shortly after, Totten said, the leaders at Elevation called him and rescinded the internship offer and later told him he couldn’t perform on stage either.
“At the end of the conversation [with my campus worship leader, she] said that the church leadership had decided that anyone on stage, anyone on the platform was considered to be in a position of leadership and that now precluded me from being on the team.”
Totten left Elevation Church in summer 2017.
Elevation Church is listed as a part of the Southern Baptist
Convention, which describes “marriage [as] the uniting of one man and one woman
in covenant commitment for a lifetime.”
According to ChurchClarity.org, a website that grades
churches based on the clarity of their views on the LGBTQ community as well as
women in leadership, Elevation got a grade of “unclear” for both. The website
describes Elevation’s policy on those who identify as LGBTQ as “non-affirming”
which means that the church’s “policies place restrictions on individuals based
on their sexual orientation and/or gender identity” such as not ordaining,
hiring or marrying LGBTQ+ people.
Totten said that Elevation is deceptive towards those in the
LGBTQ community because of its vague policy and overly welcoming nature.
“They’re not explicitly welcoming,” he said. “They’ll welcome anyone’s money. [Queer people] are given a presentation and a façade and it’s not representative of reality.”
Totten’s friend, Autumn Quinn, said she experienced similar
mistreatment during her time at Elevation Church. Quinn, who is a lesbian,
joined Elevation in 2013 and started attending the same Roanoke location as
Totten. When Quinn began dating her wife, whom she met through Elevation
Church, she said the staff and volunteers at Elevation started treating her
“Some of the staff couldn’t even look at me,” she said.
“They were not willing to even acknowledge that I was standing right there. It
made me question trusting people and especially people who claim to be
Christian who claim to follow Jesus and loving your neighbor, but they seem to
do that with condition.”
Respess said that the YWCA does not reflect Elevation’s
values and that the YWCA hasn’t found that discriminatory history to be a
problem at the Winston-Salem location. She said that they vetted Elevation
Church two years ago when they first started renting to them and didn’t find
any issues. She also noted that YWCA members do not have to be members of the
church and that the two are totally separate organizations and that Elevation’s
policies would not affect the YWCA’s operations. The YWCA doesn’t open until 1
p.m. on Sundays so members may not interact with the dozens of congregants that
meet in the building for the two services on Sundays at 9 a.m. and 11 a.m.
“We are incredibly diverse,” Respess said. “[The YWCA] is
just a big open environment where people feel comfortable.”
Linda Sutton, a lifelong Goler Memorial member, said that
she knew about the rental agreement between Goler and Elevation but that she
hadn’t heard about Elevation’s LGBTQ discriminatory policies.
“When you think about a church, you think about a welcoming
body of Christians,” Sutton said on Wednesday. “I didn’t know anything about
She said that Goler is a welcoming church that has had LGBTQ
members on the payroll in the past.
“We’ve never had a problem like that and don’t think we ever
will,” she said.
The YWCA’s stance of inclusion towards LGBTQ people appears
to be at odds with Elevation Church’s doctrine restricting marriage to a man
and woman and its history of discrimination. “It’s very deceptive to offer
safety and shower [people] with love and affirmation and then some time down
the road when those people want to step up or be baptized, or take a leadership
position, to be told that we can’t allow you to do that and our church doesn’t
allow that lifestyle,” said Matt Comer, who works as the communications
director of Charlotte Pride and is a gay man. Comer uncovered Elevation’s
policies on the LGBTQ community when he was an editor for Q Notes, a
LGBTQ-led newspaper based in Charlotte.
“The YWCA is LGBTQ-affirming so I’m a little surprised that
they’ve entered into this business agreement,” he continued. “They may be
putting their employees and members in great spiritual and psychological risk.”
Respess said that the YWCA’s basketball courts will be
converted into a youth ministry and a permanent space for Elevation’s worship
services in January. She said that community members who used the basketball
courts for tournaments would be moved to a new location, adding that the space
was not used that much anyway.
She also said that a new fitness area and walking track
would take the place of where the pool is.
When asked if the new partnership had affected memberships,
Respess said that cancellations were down in numbers compared to last year.
At least one member said that they will not return now that
Elevation owns the building.
ES Weiler, who didn’t feel comfortable giving her first
name, said that she used to be a member at the Gateway YWCA for about six years,
until they announced that the pool would not be re-opening. She said that she
thought about rejoining the gym but after hearing about the new business deal,
she decided not to go back.
“It sounded like a spin,” she said. “They misled people and
they created a story that sounds like a win-win for everybody but really it’s a
win for Elevation Church and it’s a loss for people like me. I just feel like
it’s no longer a YWCA. It’s a church with a fitness area. That’s not really
what I’m looking for. My own church has a multipurpose room with a gym.”
She said that as a person who supports LGBTQ rights, she
wouldn’t go back to the YWCA because it shares space with Elevation.
“If they are not inclusive, that’s just one more reason not to go,” she said.
Elevation’s rapid expansion in places like Winston-Salem
concerns those like Totten who say they have been discriminated against.
“Elevation has a very colonialist approach to church
planning,” Totten said. “It’s kind of almost like this manifest destiny. They
are trying to be a global church. It makes me uncomfortable that the church
continues to amass power and leverage their financial strength into these kinds
of real estate situations.”
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